# Thoughts on Puzzle 30 **URL:** \ **Category:** \[Ended\] Hack the Galaxy šŸŖ\ **Created:** [September 1, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461 "2022-09-01T09:27:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JaiinaK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/jaiinak/32/18733_2.png) [@JaiinaK](https://community.rapyd.net/u/JaiinaK)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/1 "2022-09-01T09:27:48Z")
I havenā€™t started to solve it yet, but this puzzle seems at the same time simple and difficult haha. But as a Sudoku lover, Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll have fun solving it. Did you solve it? How much time it took you? ---
**Author:** ![Amit\_Leibovitch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/amit_leibovitch/32/1763_2.png) [@Amit\_Leibovitch](https://community.rapyd.net/u/Amit_Leibovitch)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 9:40am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/2 "2022-09-01T09:40:59Z")
i posted a new post didnt see yours, about a question i have regarding this puzzle if you know the answer please help me in my post here > [@Thoughts on Puzzle 30 : Build-Your-Own-Sudoku](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30-build-your-own-sudoku/55462): > > I was wondering about clue number (7) , givens increase in value in rows 5 and 7, does that mean the first letter of row 7 is bigger than the last letter of row 5? or each row is calculated independently? share your thoughts slight_smile ---
**Author:** ![igorgetmeabrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/igorgetmeabrain/32/14926_2.png) [@igorgetmeabrain](https://community.rapyd.net/u/igorgetmeabrain)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/3 "2022-09-01T11:23:29Z")
I interpret this as each row calculated independently. So reading from L to R in row 5 the numerical values increase and, independently, the same rule for row 7. I havenā€™t yet solved this puzzle thoughā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![igorgetmeabrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/igorgetmeabrain/32/14926_2.png) [@igorgetmeabrain](https://community.rapyd.net/u/igorgetmeabrain)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/4 "2022-09-01T11:26:16Z")
Forgive me if Iā€™m being dense but I donā€™t understand how rule 10 can apply to a conventional Sudoku puzzle. **10) The givens in at least one row sum to 24, and the givens in at least one column sum to 25** In order to sum to 25, the values 9, 9, 7 or 9, 8, 8 would need to appear in a single column. This breaks Sudoku rulesā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![MarcinJ13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7c8e57/32.png) [@MarcinJ13](https://community.rapyd.net/u/MarcinJ13)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/5 "2022-09-01T11:27:13Z")
Iā€™m kind of stuck. The value of F in combination of some other rules always get me error. HAve to start from the scratch. ---
**Author:** ![MarcinJ13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7c8e57/32.png) [@MarcinJ13](https://community.rapyd.net/u/MarcinJ13)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/6 "2022-09-01T11:34:37Z")
There is one column with 4 given values. so it is possible. ---
**Author:** ![igorgetmeabrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/igorgetmeabrain/32/14926_2.png) [@igorgetmeabrain](https://community.rapyd.net/u/igorgetmeabrain)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/7 "2022-09-01T11:35:25Z")
Haha, I was being distinctly unobservant, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![JaiinaK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/jaiinak/32/18733_2.png) [@JaiinaK](https://community.rapyd.net/u/JaiinaK)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/8 "2022-09-01T11:36:58Z")
I havenā€™t solved that clue yet, but I think each row works individually, so the R in row 7 is not necessarily greater than the M in row 5 ---
**Author:** ![JaiinaK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/jaiinak/32/18733_2.png) [@JaiinaK](https://community.rapyd.net/u/JaiinaK)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/9 "2022-09-01T11:42:06Z")
The sum of 25 can only be in one column. But from my calculations, there are 7 ways to reach 25 (and maybe more). And I have 4 rows who can have a sum of 24. But I may have miscalculatedā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![YehorS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/yehors/32/19362_2.png) [@YehorS](https://community.rapyd.net/u/YehorS)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/10 "2022-09-01T12:46:25Z")
This puzzle is the hardest of all. And I still donā€™t understand one thing. What do numbers in main diagonal mean? ---
**Author:** ![KreherFA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/kreherfa/32/12655_2.png) [@KreherFA](https://community.rapyd.net/u/KreherFA)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/11 "2022-09-01T12:48:46Z")
Once you solve the sudoku, you do the plus of that number for each of those places to give you the number to alpha convert, (so if there was a 3 in the top left square for example (first letter), you would do 3 + 2 = 5, alpha convert to get the letter ā€˜eā€™.) ---
**Author:** ![YehorS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/yehors/32/19362_2.png) [@YehorS](https://community.rapyd.net/u/YehorS)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/12 "2022-09-01T12:50:38Z")
Thank you very much! ---
**Author:** ![KreherFA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/kreherfa/32/12655_2.png) [@KreherFA](https://community.rapyd.net/u/KreherFA)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/13 "2022-09-01T13:21:29Z")
No problem! YehorS šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![marinamvt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@marinamvt](https://community.rapyd.net/u/marinamvt)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/14 "2022-09-01T13:54:18Z")
This one is definitely a challenge. So far I have figured out 3 of the values, I know which row is 24 and I have 2 possible combinations for column 25. I even figured out clues 6 and 11 and how they apply, but I still feel quite far from solving it šŸ„² Gonna step away now. ---
**Author:** ![S3krt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/s3krt/32/70_2.png) [@S3krt](https://community.rapyd.net/u/S3krt)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/15 "2022-09-01T14:06:05Z")
I managed to solve it using brute force from the numbers on the diagonal ---
**Author:** ![JaiinaK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/community.rapyd.net/jaiinak/32/18733_2.png) [@JaiinaK](https://community.rapyd.net/u/JaiinaK)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/16 "2022-09-01T14:18:37Z")
I figured out most of the clues, but apparently something went wrong and the same numbers appear too much times in the Sudoku šŸ˜… I also tried to brute force it like @S3krt but I have no result yetā€¦ Iā€™ll take a break and try again later. ---
**Author:** ![Emdur2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f6c823/32.png) [@Emdur2](https://community.rapyd.net/u/Emdur2)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/17 "2022-09-01T15:49:06Z")
I think this is the most challenging puzzle of the ones Iā€™ve seen. Have gone through the conditions several times and eliminated numbers each time, but have not been able to get any one given locked in yet. Have one letter down to two possible numbers, and one down to three, but thatā€™s as close as Iā€™ve gotten to identifying any of them. Hmmm ---
**Author:** ![xand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de0a6/32.png) [@xand](https://community.rapyd.net/u/xand)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/18 "2022-09-01T16:39:43Z")
Absolutely the hardest one so far by a few orders of magnitude, had to finally write code to brute force the answer, but will go back and try to solve it the normal way ---
**Author:** ![Frederic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4491bb/32.png) [@Frederic](https://community.rapyd.net/u/Frederic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/19 "2022-09-01T17:02:56Z")
I had to start again, because i assumed all the time that there were 26 letters. But the Y and Z are missing, so there are just 24 letters and this screwed up my calculations. ---
**Author:** ![MarcinJ13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7c8e57/32.png) [@MarcinJ13](https://community.rapyd.net/u/MarcinJ13)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461/21 "2022-09-01T19:20:18Z")
You made mistake. Last row should not have 9 as one of given. Anyway i think you should remove this picture, as it gives some clues to the others. [Next page](https://community.rapyd.net/t/thoughts-on-puzzle-30/55461.md?page=2)